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For any copyright, please send me a message. Rick Perry has denied ever discussing the Biden family's dealings in the Ukraine with Donald Trump after the president appeared to try to pin the scandal on the outgoing energy secretary. In an interview with CBN News on Friday, Perry said he likely has closer relationships with Ukrainian officials than any other cabinet secretary because he spearheaded US efforts to clean up corruption in the eastern European nation. The former Texas governor said Joe Biden's name never came up during the many conversations he's had with Trump, other White House officials and foreign ambassadors about his dealings in the Ukraine. Perry's remarks came hours after Trump reportedly blamed the energy secretary for his now-infamous phone call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky. During the call in July, Trump repeatedly urged Zelensky to investigate Biden's son Hunter's business dealings in the Ukraine and see if the former vice president had a hand in the dismissal of a Ukrainian prosecutor who was looking into a company Hunter was on the board of. An anonymous CIA agent lodged a complaint about the call in August, accusing Trump of threatening to withhold military aid from the Ukraine if Zelensky refused to dig up dirt on Biden. The whistleblower complaint led House Democrats to open an impeachment inquiry last month. Trump has repeatedly called the Ukraine allegations a 'witch hunt' and 'presidential harassment', insisting that he didn't do anything inappropriate during the 'perfect' phone call. Share this article Share Speaking to House Republicans on a conference call Friday, Trump claimed that he only contacted Zelensky because Perry urged him to, according to Axios. Three sources confirmed the contents of the call. One of them quoted Trump as saying something along the lines of: 'I didn't even want to make the call [to Zelensky].' Another source said that Trump, referring to Perry, had told House Republicans that 'more of this will be coming out in the next few days'. At no point did Trump suggest that Perry had anything to do with the pressure on Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. During the CBN interview, Perry insisted that Biden never came up during his dealings with the Ukraine. 'I never heard, and I talked to the president about this,' he told CBN News. 'I had a conversation with - a phone call - with Rudy Guiliani about it. I've talked to the previous ambassador. I've talked to the current ambassador. I've talked to Kurt Volker, Gordan Sondland, the EU ambassador- every name that you've seen out in the media and not once, not once, as God is my witness, not once was a Biden name - not the former vice president, not his son, ever mentioned. 'Corruption was